A client comes in with a population you've never worked with, and you feel it... the quiet "I'm not equipped for this." In the finale of our Back to Basics series, Bridger and Jen sit with what that feeling is actually made of.
We close Francine Shapiro's foundational EMDR text on its last two chapters, selected populations and research, and land on the thesis humming under the whole show: EMDR is an approach to the entire therapeutic relationship, not a tool you apply to a diagnosis. In this episode:
- A conceptualization frame you can bring to any population: four questions for your next session
- Why the person is the expert on their own condition, and what themes and patterns are (and aren't) good for
- Safety and shame as the through-line across every population
- The reframe that most "population protocols" (chronic pain, perinatal, OCD, grief) are conceptualization frameworks in disguise
- Competency culture, imposter syndrome, and when a referral is wisdom rather than failure
- Populations up close: veterans, OCD, TBI, the perinatal period, chronic pain and illness, and grief
Plus a season of milestones at Beyond Healing: the EMDR and the Therapeutic Relationship manuscript submitted to the publisher (forthcoming, early 2027, with a foreword by Deb Wesselman), the launch of Beyond Healing Psychiatry, and upcoming EMDR and SIP trainings ahead of EMDRIA this August.
If you've ever hesitated at a referral, or felt behind on certifications, this one is for you.
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