Recorded at the EMDRIA Conference 2026 in Anaheim, this conversation from the Notice That podcast's Notes from the Hall series features Dr. Sarah Schubert, minutes after her keynote, on what Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) therapy looks like when memory, resourcing, and adaptive information processing are understood as bigger than one person's mind. If phase two is not about building something new but about connecting to what is already there, what does resourcing actually look like?
Dr. Sarah Schubert delivered a keynote at the EMDRIA Conference 2026, her first EMDRIA conference as both attendee and speaker. She works across the lifespan, including children and adolescents in out-of-home care, has done theoretical and PhD research on EMDR, and founded EMDR Therapy Training Australia. Find her at drsarahschubert.com. [OPTIONAL: one-line bio expansion, confirm wording with Sarah]
We talk about why she was asked to keynote (honor Shapiro's vision, and name where AIP has limits); what Indigenous voices in Australia are asking of EMDR ("we don't want EMDR adapted to our culture, we want you to listen to our culture"); what changes when time is not past, present, and future and the trauma is not in the past; memory as something distributed across place, objects, and people rather than held in one mind; why phase two is about connecting to strength that is already there rather than building a resource from scratch; the check-in she calls "finding the you that's you" (when have you been able to be yourself this week, doing what, where, and with whom); the pebbles she keeps in her pocket for clients; the biopsychosocial model of AIP and the idea that the AIP system is an attachment system; why "self-regulated" might be a contradiction in terms; the difference between looking inward as a clinician and turning a training practicum into therapy; the teacher who taught her that a therapist's own nervous system is clinical data; what adolescents in out-of-home care teach you about phase two; and the dual-therapist, group-based way her team works with children in care, drawing on Nacho Jarero's protocols. Her closing question: why are we doing therapy on our own?
Notes from the Hall is a 26-episode series from the Notice That podcast, recorded on the floor of the EMDRIA Conference 2026 in Anaheim — a window into the largest gathering of EMDR therapists in the United States, for everyone who was there and everyone who couldn't be. Hosted by Bridger Falkenstien and Jen Savage. Produced by Beyond Healing Media. Explore the full series at connectbeyondhealing.com.
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